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welcome travel back in time with us

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right now for rare UFO content

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this is vintage Skies

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animations in this broadcast have been

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do you believe in flying sausage

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there's other life out there and there's

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also intelligent life

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it's quite natural to wonder about our

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place in the universe to suggest that

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we're alone is inexcusably egocentric

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the federal government knows fully well

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what is taking place with regard to the

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UFO phenomenon they're not sharing that

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with the American people

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I believe that the object that I saw was

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extraterrestrial these objects would

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hover they would Dart very quickly one

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way or the other I'd never seen anything

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like that haven't since then if even one

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of these signings is correct is perhaps

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the greatest event in all of human

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history spine saucers I don't know

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whether to believe it or not

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thank you

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hello I'm Peter Jennings We Begin this

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program knowing from the research that

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most of us believe that we're not alone

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that there is other intelligent life in

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the universe

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NASA is searching for evidence of life

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in our solar system recently NASA and

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the European Space Agency landed a probe

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on Titan one of Saturn's moons looking

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for signs of life

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the scientists at Nasa would be happy to

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find a fossil a microbe anything to

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prove that life out there exists in some

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form

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but tonight there are millions of people

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here on Earth who believe that

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intelligent life from outer space is

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visiting us

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and they believe that they have seen the

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evidence

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it was so shiny it looked like someone

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was shining a very bright light on a

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piece of aluminum the craft is this

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shaped probably bigger than a 747 and it

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arced over the top of our car then there

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was a third object even behind the first

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two so it came across and just stopped

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it went back the direction it came from

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this light went like this

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that forever gave me the the view that

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something other than us was was out in

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the world there's no doubt that we're

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being visited

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there is no doubt

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they are definitely here why they're

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here where they're from you can only

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speculate

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more than 80 million Americans believe

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that the Earth has been visited by

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extraterrestrials visitors from outer

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space and after a count of about four

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seconds gone we're probably missing more

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than 40 million Americans say they have

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seen or know someone who has seen an

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unidentified flying object a UFO object

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I have seen alien vehicles on eight

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occasions since then and many Americans

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believe that they themselves have been

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abducted by aliens

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I find myself floating from my bed four

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of these beings came into my house came

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in and got me I know what I saw I know

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what I experienced is real I know it

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because everybody else has seen it

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talked about it and discussed it so I

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know for a fact it's real I know for a

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fact it's real

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real to some

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most scientists would rather look for

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life in a grain of sand than believe

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that aliens are here Among Us

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when I look at the evidence that aliens

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have visited Earth I don't find any of

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none of it I think passes the rigorous

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tests of scientific evidence

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patterns are made by the drawing NASA

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scientist Dr Chris McKay studies life in

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California's Mojave Desert looking for

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here in the Mojave I know that there was

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life here I can reach down to the soil

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and pull it up and analyze it and find

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evidence that there was life here when

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there was water here I'd like to do the

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scientists including McKay believe that

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the universe is so vast there must be

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if you look at all the people interested

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in life beyond Earth there's scientists

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and UFO Searchers what we all have in

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common is a belief that there's life out

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there we really have that commonality

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the difference is how we approach what

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to do with that belief what I do with

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that belief is approach the problem

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scientifically

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phenomenon I see it as in a sense a

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shadow of the same kind of work I do

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the UFO phenomenon only a shadow of

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mainstream science

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but people throughout the world believe

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that unidentified flying objects are

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spacecraft Guided by intelligent beings

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and if you are among the Believers you

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have probably spent at least a few late

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nights listening to the program

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broadcast from this desert compound

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Coast to Coast with Art Bell is the

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place to talk about UFOs or ufology as

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the Rockies you're on Air High hey Art

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this is Matt in Colorado hey Matt hey um

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got a fighting for you to happen last

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summer no he was using cigar-shaped the

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common cause of ufology is to finally

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determine what in the hell is lying in

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our skies hurt your eyes I turned away

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when I looked back it's gone

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I think that Coast to Coast AM is the

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main conduit for ufology information

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and over my phone lines have come the

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most informed ufologists the best

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scientists and some of the craziest

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people you'll ever meet

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and I was moving very slowly with the

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cloud cover

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you over flew New York City and I never

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heard about a triangular UFO until I

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looked it up and I found that you had

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seen one yep a nice Coast began as a

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actually a political show kind of like

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everybody else's political show that

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radio's infested with

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and one day I got sick of doing the same

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damn thing over and over again same

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politics over and over and I I began to

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know aliens and Three Points of Light

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the weird thing about them Coast to

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Coast became the fourth most popular

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program on American radio it was really

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weird like they were doing a dance yeah

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were fascinated with the whole concept

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of alien intelligence because it would

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be so strange if we were all alone

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imagine for a moment how it would feel

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if we were all along if there was no

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other life intelligent life anywhere in

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all that you see out there

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encountered something from out there in

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we were on the way home from Las Vegas

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about a half mile from where we're

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standing at the moment I just happened

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to look out the rear view the rearview

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mirror and just saw something coming up

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normal normal I I kept saying what what

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the hell is that well and this thing

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floated above our heads doing about 30

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miles an hour floated yeah it floated uh

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we're defined had to have been Defying

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aircraft I don't know

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the moon and the stars went away

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and there it was above us and we stood

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and watched it go across the valley and

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but Belle and his wife were alone but

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there have been UFO sightings with

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hundreds even thousands of eyewitnesses

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1997. there was some incredible

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sightings over Phoenix called The

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Phoenix Lights and they occurred while I

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was doing my program I took call after

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call after call of people in Phoenix

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saying oh my God what's flying over our

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reported seeing a mysterious flying

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security guard Bob Nelson was sitting on

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not at once is six or seven lights came

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and it was moving very slow

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and then I went in and jokingly said to

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my wife we got a UFO coming over

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you just couldn't believe what you seen

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and Kevin were in their front yard we

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saw this incredible sized vehicle there

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were five huge lights in the very front

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mountain the top of that mountain that

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vehicle spent five to six minutes

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hovering from that mountain to my house

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slow it was absolutely silent just

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completely gliding just like part of the

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sky just a big big big platform just

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flying with lights in front of it I

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could see it was covering Stars so I

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Sheriff Deputy Thomas Chavez was in his

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I was sitting here facing to the east

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watching the intersection and on one of

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the times when I glanced up for my

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paperwork that's when I saw the strange

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Set of Lights I can't give you a

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definite answer to what it was all I

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could tell you what it was not and it

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was definitely not an aircraft an

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aircraft as we know it

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went outside with his wife as it passed

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in front of us all we could see was the

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left wing of The Craft itself that's how

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low it was we didn't go fetch a camera

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we didn't do anything but sit there and

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watch it you actually tell yourself not

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to Blink because you might miss

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something I mean that's how intense it

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at 10 pm that night thousands of other

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people reported seeing another series of

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what I'm looking at here is a light on

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his house on moon mountain when I saw

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the one light it was it was one thing I

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was just photographing the one light and

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then all of a sudden another one popped

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up in a different direction so then I

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trained the camera on that light and

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then another one popped up and before

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happen in front of my eyes and and uh

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which is south of Phoenix he's a retired

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Air Force pilot and an astronomer

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clearly today UFO ology is a mythology

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that's based on Superstition wrapped

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inside a fairy tale telling a story

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what most people see is lights in the

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sky at night

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Points of Light they equate that to

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spacecraft from another world there's no

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connection if you see a light in the sky

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you've seen a light in the sky that's

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all you've seen

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this happened in the case of the Phoenix

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Lights

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the lights on the videotape were simply

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flares being dropped by a-10s on the

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Goldwater test range there's nothing

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mysterious about it I know what flares

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look like these are clearly flares and

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some people have said they saw a

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triangular aircraft flying through the

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Phoenix airspace

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the argument against that is very simple

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the Phoenix radar didn't see anything

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they were connecting the dots of these

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objects that's all they were doing the

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bright lights of these objects they were

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connecting this and saying it's all one

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thing it wasn't one thing it was five

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different aircraft flying in formation

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the people in Phoenix do not believe

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they were just connecting dots

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for somebody to say there were planes in

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formation I'm telling them I saw a solid

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object my wife saw a solid object I know

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300 or 400 people that I've talked to

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saw the solid object in the eight

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o'clock hour I know what I saw and it

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was something that I've never seen

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before and probably will never see again

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and it was amazing it was amazing it was

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something that was not Premiere and

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that's what's so intriguing to me about

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it that it's unknown the unknown of it I

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am so certain at what I saw that I would

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testify in a court of law

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or in a congressional hearing as to what

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I saw because what I saw was not an

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aircraft

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I think it was UFO

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I be honestly believe that there was a

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UFO you don't have to believe me nobody

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believes it but you will believe it when

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when it comes to unidentified flying

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objects seeing

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is believing

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this is the center for UFO studies on

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the outskirts of Chicago

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there are files here from thousands of

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witnesses who report seeing UFOs and the

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records go back for decades

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the best way to become a believer in

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UFOs is to have a sighting if you

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encounter it directly you're likely to

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believe in it because you encountered it

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intellectual arguments don't always work

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as well with people understandably you

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know I saw UFO so you should believe in

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it or look at all these other people

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that saw it so you should believe in it

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it's always the personal that's going to

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lead to a belief that the subject is

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real and that's true for scientists for

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ufologists and for members of the

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has been researching the UFO phenomenon

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since 1974. one conjecture is that many

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reports are at least a good fraction of

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reports these days are caused by secret

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aircraft

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it turns out that it's actually pretty

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easy to distinguish between sightings

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that might be secret aircraft and

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sightings that are probably not that

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when you get a UFO sighting where the

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object behaves in a way

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that defies conventional physics defies

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the way that an airplane would move and

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when you can see the object it's not

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just a point of light but there is some

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size there some actual shape you can see

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and that thing isn't shaped like an

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airplane well then it's not a secret

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aircraft it's whatever it is it's just

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something totally bizarre and strange

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an example of that would be a sighting

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that occurred in January of 2000 near St

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Louis and the Illinois side of the river

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this huge triangular object was moving

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fairly low to the ground kind of zipping

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around the area

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it's not Venus or Mars or whatever

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object was up at the time it's not

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another aircraft that was up at the time

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well gee if it's on a conventional

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object it very well could be a alien

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ship and I I don't know I guess that's

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why they call them on it identified

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objects and I don't know I do know that

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it wasn't a plane that I've ever seen

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before am I saying it was alien

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spacecraft no I'm not saying it was a

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military craft I'm saying I can't

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identify the object and it's

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unidentified flying object by its very

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there was no official investigation to

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the sightings in Illinois or Arizona the

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U.S government is not in the business of

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investigating UFOs

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to understand why you need to go back to

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the beginning

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when we come back the story of the first

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flying saucers

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is believing continues

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[Music]

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the fascination with unidentified flying

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objects can be traced to a day in June

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1947 and to one man Kenneth Arnold

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he was not a guy who read science

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fiction he was not a guy who had any

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occult interests he was not a guy with a

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lot of imagination he lived pretty close

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to the ground mentally but he loved to

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fly and so on the Tuesday afternoon of

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June 24 1947 when he saw these nine dish

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shaped objects flying at some

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considerable speed over Mount Rainier he

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thought that he was witnessing a secret

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military experiment

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every newspaper across the nation has

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made headlines out of it and this

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afternoon we are honored indeed to have

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here in our studio Kenneth Arnold Who We

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Believe may be able to give us a

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first-hand account and give you the same

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on what happened go ahead Kenneth

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they look something like a pie plate

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that was cut in half with a sort of a

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convex triangle in the rear uh I'd be

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glad to confirm it with my hands on a

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Bible because I did see it it's just as

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much a mystery to me as it is to

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everyone else who's been calling me the

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last 24 hours wondering what it was

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the Press referred to the nine objects

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Arnold said he saw as flying saucers

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Arnold was such a straight shooter he

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was so clearly puzzled there was no

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possibility that this guy was making up

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a strange story

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Arnold's sighting just seemed to

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catalyze everything all of a sudden

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there was this presence of something

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unidentified in the sky that couldn't be

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ignored in the next two or three weeks

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there were many hundreds of sightings

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Army fighter planes are on patrol for

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flying saucers cameras installed to

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photograph them so many objects were

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being seen in the Sky by so many people

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that the Army Air Force launched an

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investigation they're seeing flying

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saucers everywhere

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and on September the 23rd 1947 General

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Nathan Twining issued a memo that said

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quite categorically the phenomenon

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reported is something real and not

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Visionary or fictitious

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when it appeared that technological

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devices of some kind were penetrating

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American airspace and we didn't know

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what they were and had no idea what to

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do about them this was obviously a

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national security problem

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it was the beginning of the Cold War and

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what Americans feared most was being

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attacked by the Soviet Union

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we didn't know what they might have

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flying

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and so those concerns by the government

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legitimate concerns by the government

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for our security LED eventually to them

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establishing a full-time office to

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investigate UFOs

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foreign

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the Air Force investigators quickly came

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to realize that they were not dealing

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with Soviet aircraft nothing man-made

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performed like flying saucers

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they started thinking well the Soviets

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aren't doing this there's really no

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thing on Earth that can be doing this

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and then on July the 24th 1948 two

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experienced commercial pilots Clarence

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Charles and John witthead were flying at

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night over Alabama

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when they encountered what they

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described as a cigar-shaped object

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perhaps a hundred feet long flying

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faster than any aircraft they had ever

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seen

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it had they said two rows of windows and

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they could see lights inside and orange

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the Gators couldn't explain it it could

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not possibly fly unless it had an engine

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in it that was beyond anything anybody

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on Earth could make and this in a sense

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was their proof that they were dealing

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with the Extraterrestrial technology the

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Air Force investigators trusted the

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testimony of these experienced pilots

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and were forced to consider the

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since 1948 there have been thousands of

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sightings by Commercial and Military

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flight Crews March the 12 1977. I was

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flying a trip from San Francisco to

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Boston

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non-stopping at DC-10 it was an Airbus 3

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20 and we are 24 passengers on board

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with a very good condition we are at 39

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000 feet we were north of just north of

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Dallas Fort Worth it was a beautiful

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clear night out of nowhere some lights

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appeared looking over to the left of me

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just to the north of me I noticed I read

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a light of some kind to the far the

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distance off our our port side our right

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side and Larry says well keep an eye on

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he says well now it's coming at us so

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and they began a turn

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from pointing directly at us

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in an Echelon sort of a turn away it was

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not a plan it was not a wizard Baron it

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was usual absolutely huge

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it was a dark headquarter

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and subject

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begin to become transparent and

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disappeared

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crazy

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it just was gliding through the sky so

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quietly and as it did so it blotted off

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the stars behind and it just reminded me

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of submarine in the depths when it's

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quiet and just kind of Motoring right on

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through you know there were no wings

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there were no windows

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and uh it was cigar shaped I saw what I

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saw and this thing was not from here I

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watched

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this big gigantic light

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go out behind our left wing tip and then

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the turn progressed it disappeared in

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the distance off to the back at a very

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high rate of speed

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I've flown all in Jets I flew in the war

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I flew b-17s in the war everything I've

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got over 30 000 hours of flight time

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and never had a sighting as that one

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in the fall of 1948 Air Force

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investigators were convinced by the

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testimony of pilots in a remarkable top

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secret report to General Hoyt Vandenberg

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the Air Force's Chief of Staff the

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investigators said the Earth was being

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visited by alien spaceships

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they took it so seriously that they

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risked their own careers by writing an

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estimate of the situation that they sent

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into higher headquarters and said that

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UFOs these some of these UFOs could be

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extraterrestrial which of course was not

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received well by uh by the Pentagon

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white Vandenberg looked at this thing

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and he said I cannot accept this I

556
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cannot accept this kind of conclusion

557
00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:36,120
because you don't have concrete proof

558
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:38,280
that that's what kind of a device we're

559
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,840
dealing with

560
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:42,000
the eyewitness accounts from experienced

561
00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:44,220
Pilots were not enough for the general

562
00:24:48,350 --> 00:24:46,440
the Air Force wanted the Flying Saucer

563
00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:48,360
phenomena to go away

564
00:24:53,090 --> 00:24:50,220
but the popular fascination with

565
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:53,100
mysterious flying objects was growing

566
00:25:02,090 --> 00:24:58,740
[Music]

567
00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:02,100
in 1952 the Air Force received more UFO

568
00:25:07,010 --> 00:25:04,340
reports than any other year in history

569
00:25:09,529 --> 00:25:07,020
the sky is the stage the actors

570
00:25:12,590 --> 00:25:09,539
so-called flying saucers and they're

571
00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:12,600
back on the scene with some new twists

572
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:14,940
photograph of a flying saucer taken by

573
00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:17,700
myself and it reminded me of two straw

574
00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:21,240
hats stuck together at the brim I saw an

575
00:25:26,269 --> 00:25:23,940
intensely bright white green object in

576
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,279
the sky now I wouldn't want to say that

577
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:28,799
this was one of those so-called flying

578
00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:31,440
sauces but whatever it was

579
00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:36,419
it was an object and not an illusion

580
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:38,340
the Air Force had really tried to

581
00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:41,700
downplay the UFO problem but by the

582
00:25:46,610 --> 00:25:44,220
summer of 1952 there was an enormous

583
00:25:48,649 --> 00:25:46,620
wave of sightings there were hundreds

584
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,659
and hundreds probably thousands of

585
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:50,880
sightings

586
00:26:00,590 --> 00:25:58,080
focused on Washington DC

587
00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:00,600
at least three radar systems in

588
00:26:05,810 --> 00:26:03,120
Washington in the area were picking up

589
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:05,820
unidentified targets

590
00:26:09,649 --> 00:26:08,400
this very much worried people in

591
00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:09,659
Washington because it looked like

592
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:11,880
penetration of the most important

593
00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:14,880
airspace in the country

594
00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:17,700
in July 1952 the pentagon's

595
00:26:22,190 --> 00:26:20,039
communication system was overwhelmed by

596
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:22,200
calls about UFOs

597
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,440
the number of calls of frightened

598
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:27,360
Americans historical Americans coming

599
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,039
into the switchboards of the American

600
00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:31,440
government were clogging communication

601
00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:33,960
channels and if American communication

602
00:26:39,649 --> 00:26:37,080
channels were clogged then this would

603
00:26:41,690 --> 00:26:39,659
leave America vulnerable to a potential

604
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:41,700
Soviet attack

605
00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:43,860
so the task is

606
00:26:54,350 --> 00:26:52,610
public hysteria not the flying saucers

607
00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:54,360
themselves that threatened the National

608
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,340
Security

609
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,559
President Truman ordered the CIA to make

610
00:27:03,769 --> 00:27:00,720
recommendations on how the Air Force

611
00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:03,779
should handle the UFO problem

612
00:27:09,769 --> 00:27:06,900
the CIA convened a panel headed by the

613
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:09,779
physicist H.P Robertson the Robertson

614
00:27:15,409 --> 00:27:12,720
panel says we must do something to

615
00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:15,419
remove the aura of mystery from the UFO

616
00:27:21,049 --> 00:27:18,659
phenomena so that people no longer take

617
00:27:24,289 --> 00:27:21,059
them seriously and don't bother to

618
00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:24,299
report them that's what we want

619
00:27:28,850 --> 00:27:26,760
so flying saucers whatever they were

620
00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:28,860
wherever they came from were to be made

621
00:27:33,529 --> 00:27:31,320
the subject of ridicule

622
00:27:34,730 --> 00:27:33,539
but it was impossible to control the

623
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:34,740
public interest the public was

624
00:27:39,769 --> 00:27:37,440
fascinated one of the most widely read

625
00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:39,779
magazine articles at the time proclaimed

626
00:27:45,049 --> 00:27:43,140
the flying saucers are real

627
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:45,059
one of the most respected Publications

628
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:47,760
in America Life Magazine published

629
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:50,580
photographs just a minute ladies and

630
00:28:00,430 --> 00:27:53,520
gentlemen I think something is happening

631
00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:04,149
The Day the Earth Stood Still

632
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:06,360
this could be the beginning of the end

633
00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:09,240
for the human race The War of the Worlds

634
00:28:15,529 --> 00:28:12,120
are the often ridiculed flying saucers

635
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:15,539
are in reality a flaming Vanguard of The

636
00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:18,480
Invasion From Mars flying saucers have

637
00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:21,000
invaded our planet Washington London

638
00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:23,460
Paris Earth versus the flying saucers

639
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:25,980
the whole world is under attack

640
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:27,840
can it survive

641
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:30,419
the government simply could not control

642
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:32,520
the Public's appetite for a phenomenon

643
00:28:38,330 --> 00:28:35,700
so intriguing they're pulling us up when

644
00:28:40,850 --> 00:28:38,340
we come back the Air Force tries to

645
00:28:43,150 --> 00:28:40,860
explain the unexplainable prisoners

646
00:28:44,210 --> 00:28:43,160
hurtling through endless space

647
00:28:46,190 --> 00:28:44,220
[Music]

648
00:28:48,590 --> 00:28:46,200
today if you ask the Air Force about

649
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:48,600
UFOs it will tell you there is no

650
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:50,460
evidence that they are extraterrestrial

651
00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:53,159
vehicles and there is no evidence that

652
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:56,340
they represent technology beyond our own

653
00:29:05,350 --> 00:28:59,760
the Air Force will cite as proof its own

654
00:29:08,570 --> 00:29:05,360
22-year study called Project Blue Book

655
00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:08,580
during the 1950s and 60s Project Blue

656
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:10,980
Book based at Wright-Patterson Air Force

657
00:29:16,490 --> 00:29:14,159
Base in Ohio investigated hundreds of

658
00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:16,500
UFO reports every year they came from

659
00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:18,539
every part of the country from people in

660
00:29:24,490 --> 00:29:21,720
every Walk of Life night sightings day

661
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,500
sightings sightings of mysterious lights

662
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,640
structured craft

663
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,799
the reports came to Blue Book seeking

664
00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:31,200
answers to what it was in America's

665
00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:32,220
Skies

666
00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:35,580
Blue Book was overwhelmed by the volume

667
00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:37,080
of reports

668
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:39,960
Americans were told again and again we

669
00:29:44,990 --> 00:29:42,320
have a crack unit of individuals

670
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:45,000
scientifically trained people studying

671
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,620
this phenomenon

672
00:29:50,990 --> 00:29:48,720
that wasn't the case there wasn't a

673
00:29:52,669 --> 00:29:51,000
massive Institute where Blue Book had a

674
00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:52,679
staff of white-coated lab technicians

675
00:29:57,049 --> 00:29:55,320
there was a a guy at a desk and a

676
00:29:58,909 --> 00:29:57,059
secretary and a you know a private or

677
00:30:01,549 --> 00:29:58,919
someone there you know typing stuff was

678
00:30:03,950 --> 00:30:01,559
a very very small project

679
00:30:07,549 --> 00:30:03,960
Colonel Robert friend was the director

680
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:07,559
of Project Blue Book from 1958 to 1963.

681
00:30:15,169 --> 00:30:11,039
we wanted to explain as many signings as

682
00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:15,179
possible but we recognize that the the

683
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:18,059
amount of resources that would be

684
00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:20,520
necessary in order to do this would have

685
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:23,399
been far beyond those that we were ready

686
00:30:28,190 --> 00:30:26,159
to commit at the time blue book was

687
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,200
never intended to become a serious

688
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:30,720
full-scale scientific inquiry the Air

689
00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:32,880
Force had another mission for its UFO

690
00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:35,460
office Blue Book was tasked with the

691
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:38,039
public relations Mission and that

692
00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:39,360
mission was

693
00:30:45,169 --> 00:30:42,899
denounce the UFOs dismiss the UFOs

694
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:45,179
debunked the UFOs and anybody who

695
00:30:50,330 --> 00:30:47,220
believes in them just come up with

696
00:30:53,389 --> 00:30:50,340
answers and get this UFO thing out of

697
00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:53,399
the newspapers the best way to keep UFOs

698
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,260
out of the newspapers and therefore out

699
00:30:59,330 --> 00:30:57,600
of the public mind was to say repeatedly

700
00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,340
that they were nothing more than weather

701
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:02,159
balloons or rare atmospheric conditions

702
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:07,200
a star on the horizon whatever it took

703
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:10,559
what they wanted to try to do was I

704
00:31:16,210 --> 00:31:14,240
think to re-educate the public

705
00:31:20,690 --> 00:31:16,220
regarding

706
00:31:24,169 --> 00:31:20,700
UFOs to take away the aura of Mystery

707
00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:24,179
and that job was most often left to blue

708
00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:26,940
books one civilian scientist Ohio State

709
00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:30,120
astronomer Dr J Allen heineck

710
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:32,279
at this time there's no proof that I

711
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:35,279
would consider a vital scientific truth

712
00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:38,159
that we have been visiting by spaceships

713
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:41,220
there was not one found I listened there

714
00:31:48,049 --> 00:31:45,539
was not a sound between 1948 and 1969 Dr

715
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:48,059
heineck was Project Blue Book's lead

716
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:50,460
scientific investigator on thousands of

717
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:51,720
cases

718
00:31:58,610 --> 00:31:55,919
his job was to stretch his imagination

719
00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:58,620
to try to find explanations for every

720
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:01,320
possible case he could even if he knew

721
00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:03,840
it didn't make any sense don't you think

722
00:32:08,029 --> 00:32:05,700
it would be kind of unusual for a meteor

723
00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:08,039
to just fall across the road and hover

724
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:10,140
over there a minute and then drop to the

725
00:32:14,029 --> 00:32:11,640
ground the coming over wouldn't be bad

726
00:32:16,370 --> 00:32:14,039
the hovering if it would bother me the

727
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,380
longer he was in the more cases he saw

728
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,240
the more he realized that he couldn't

729
00:32:25,810 --> 00:32:19,919
explain the cases and there was a

730
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:28,730
in the middle of the Cold War across

731
00:32:33,230 --> 00:32:30,480
remote stretches of the northern United

732
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,240
States the Air Force kept ballistic

733
00:32:37,070 --> 00:32:35,760
missiles and B-52 bombers on constant

734
00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:37,080
alert

735
00:32:43,010 --> 00:32:40,679
on the night of October the 24th 1968 at

736
00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:43,020
Minot Air Force Base in Minot North

737
00:32:47,870 --> 00:32:44,460
Dakota

738
00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:47,880
Airmen first class Mike O'Connor was

739
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:49,860
dispatched to make a routine repair at

740
00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:52,559
one of the missile sites we made our

741
00:32:55,370 --> 00:32:53,880
turn to come down the road to the

742
00:32:57,889 --> 00:32:55,380
missile site

743
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,899
and out of the corner of my eye I

744
00:33:01,730 --> 00:32:59,039
observed

745
00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:01,740
a what I thought was a farmer's yard

746
00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:04,380
light but it looked awful bright

747
00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:07,980
and as we proceeded down the road the

748
00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:11,100
object appeared to lift off the ground

749
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:14,760
and parallel us down the road until we

750
00:33:19,009 --> 00:33:16,380
came to the missile site

751
00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:19,019
at which point we got out of the truck

752
00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:21,720
and it just kind of hovered there

753
00:33:26,990 --> 00:33:23,880
staff sergeant Bill Smith was in charge

754
00:33:30,110 --> 00:33:27,000
of security for 10 nuclear missiles that

755
00:33:32,990 --> 00:33:30,120
night he reported seeing strange objects

756
00:33:35,570 --> 00:33:33,000
these objects would rise it would speed

757
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:35,580
up they would slow it down they would

758
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:36,840
hover

759
00:33:39,649 --> 00:33:38,760
they would Dart very quickly one way or

760
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:39,659
the other

761
00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:42,480
we were just not really sure that these

762
00:33:51,169 --> 00:33:49,310
the minute control tower diverted a B-52

763
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:51,179
to investigate

764
00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:54,600
Captain Brad Runyon was the B-52's

765
00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:55,860
co-pilot

766
00:34:02,029 --> 00:33:58,380
the air traffic controller asked us if

767
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:02,039
we would mind going out to this one area

768
00:34:07,009 --> 00:34:05,100
and looking for something I was curious

769
00:34:09,409 --> 00:34:07,019
and I said well what are we looking for

770
00:34:10,369 --> 00:34:09,419
and I said well you'll know it if you

771
00:34:12,649 --> 00:34:10,379
find it

772
00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:12,659
the navigator on the B-52 Captain

773
00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:15,480
Patrick McCaslin suddenly identified an

774
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:17,700
object on his radar screen

775
00:34:23,570 --> 00:34:20,820
I saw a return faint One Sweep bright

776
00:34:24,889 --> 00:34:23,580
the next large off our right wing three

777
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,899
o'clock

778
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:26,879
at about three miles

779
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:29,280
and at that point I asked the radar

780
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:31,919
navigator to turn on the camera which

781
00:34:36,829 --> 00:34:33,780
would then take pictures of whatever was

782
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:38,869
these pictures of the radar screen show

783
00:34:43,329 --> 00:34:41,460
the object flying in formation with the

784
00:34:46,669 --> 00:34:43,339
B-52

785
00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:46,679
this thing was climbing out with us and

786
00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:48,599
maintaining the same heading we were

787
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:51,240
that was unusual

788
00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:54,060
but what really watered my eyes

789
00:34:59,630 --> 00:34:56,520
when was it when this thing backed away

790
00:35:01,730 --> 00:34:59,640
and allowed us to turn inside of it

791
00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:01,740
when the object suddenly disappeared

792
00:35:07,490 --> 00:35:04,500
from the radar the bomber turned back to

793
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:07,500
find it co-pilot Runyan was the first to

794
00:35:13,310 --> 00:35:10,320
spot what appeared to be a glowing craft

795
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:13,320
hovering near the ground when things

796
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,700
like that are happening it seems like

797
00:35:20,990 --> 00:35:17,520
time to stand still

798
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:21,000
my estimate overall object was a minimum

799
00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:24,720
of 200 feet in diameter and it was

800
00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:33,170
it had a metallic cylinder attached to

801
00:35:38,210 --> 00:35:36,180
another section that was shaped like a

802
00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:38,220
crescent moon

803
00:35:43,849 --> 00:35:40,859
I felt that this Crescent Moon part was

804
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:43,859
probably the command center

805
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:46,980
I tried to look inside the thing but all

806
00:35:53,390 --> 00:35:50,880
I could see was a yellow glow

807
00:35:56,210 --> 00:35:53,400
at that point I was

808
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:56,220
fairly sure if I was looking at an alien

809
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:57,839
spaceship something that come here from

810
00:36:02,270 --> 00:35:59,040
some other

811
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,280
planets other than the Earth

812
00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:04,320
co-pilot Runyan and the other crew

813
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,180
members of the B-52 reported their

814
00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:07,760
sighting when they returned to the Base

815
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:09,960
According to Blue Book's investigation

816
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:12,000
the crew of the B-52

817
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:15,180
and 16 Witnesses on the ground said they

818
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:17,280
saw a UFO that night

819
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:21,359
in its final report Blue Book concluded

820
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,290
none of those Pilots saw a start I know

821
00:36:33,410 --> 00:36:32,400
those Pilots I know what their training

822
00:36:37,130 --> 00:36:33,420
was

823
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,140
I know how many stars they'd seen in the

824
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,359
course of their careers and they were

825
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,240
not looking at the stars

826
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:44,400
it bothers me that blue book blew it off

827
00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:47,520
I don't think this this

828
00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:50,700
incident has ever been adequately

829
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,450
the Air Force finally got out of the

830
00:37:02,450 --> 00:36:58,800
business of trying to explain UFOs in

831
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,460
1969 it closed down Project Blue Book

832
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,079
after an independent commission

833
00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:06,720
concluded that UFOs were of no

834
00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:09,480
scientific interest

835
00:37:15,609 --> 00:37:13,020
there was one loud dissenting voice blue

836
00:37:19,069 --> 00:37:15,619
books once skeptical Chief scientist

837
00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:19,079
Alan heineck after more than 20 years

838
00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:21,000
and more than twelve thousand UFO

839
00:37:25,730 --> 00:37:24,660
investigations Dr heineck had become a

840
00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:25,740
believer

841
00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:27,540
in Blue Book for instance we would get

842
00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:29,460
reports from military pilots and that

843
00:37:32,329 --> 00:37:30,900
was particularly embarrassing to the Air

844
00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:32,339
Force because after they had trained

845
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:33,900
those men and they couldn't very well

846
00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:36,720
they could say that a civilian pilot

847
00:37:41,150 --> 00:37:37,740
might have

848
00:37:42,530 --> 00:37:41,160
been untrustworthy but they could hardly

849
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,540
say that to their of their own military

850
00:37:46,190 --> 00:37:44,400
Parts in regard case after case after

851
00:37:47,690 --> 00:37:46,200
case from military Pilots which never

852
00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:47,700
hit the Press

853
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,220
the difference between Alan heineck and

854
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:52,079
the people he worked with in Blue Book

855
00:37:56,329 --> 00:37:55,440
was this he was a scientist and they

856
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,339
weren't

857
00:37:59,450 --> 00:37:58,320
and he never forgot that he was a

858
00:38:01,490 --> 00:37:59,460
scientist

859
00:38:02,810 --> 00:38:01,500
the Air Force paid his checks and paid

860
00:38:05,089 --> 00:38:02,820
him well

861
00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:05,099
but

862
00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:07,500
they couldn't quell his scientific

863
00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:09,420
curiosity and it was a scientific

864
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:12,060
curiosity that finally won out and that

865
00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:14,160
will I think probably at some point in

866
00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:16,980
the future History of Science will earn

867
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:19,260
Allen heineck a reputation as a

868
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,980
courageous and principled man Dr heineck

869
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:24,960
spent the rest of his life investigating

870
00:38:30,589 --> 00:38:27,599
sightings and calling for a serious

871
00:38:31,790 --> 00:38:30,599
scientific inquiry into the UFO

872
00:38:34,849 --> 00:38:31,800
phenomenon

873
00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:34,859
most of his fellow scientists rejected

874
00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:36,150
his opinions

875
00:38:49,069 --> 00:38:46,490
UFOs seeing is believing continues

876
00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:49,079
Dr Alan heineck failed to interest the

877
00:38:54,670 --> 00:38:51,960
scientific community in UFOs at issue

878
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,680
was the nature of the evidence

879
00:38:59,690 --> 00:38:57,119
ufologists argued that the sheer volume

880
00:39:01,970 --> 00:38:59,700
of eyewitness sightings is proof that

881
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:01,980
something extraordinary is happening

882
00:39:10,070 --> 00:39:04,740
but mainstream scientists categorically

883
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,990
[Music]

884
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,870
seeing something they've seen the lights

885
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:19,440
in the sky

886
00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:21,660
as a scientist I need something better

887
00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:25,320
than your eyewitness testimony because

888
00:39:30,770 --> 00:39:27,900
even if in the court of law eyewitness

889
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,780
testimony is a high form of evidence in

890
00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:33,119
the court of science it is the lowest

891
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,920
form of evidence you could possibly put

892
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,720
forth it doesn't matter whether it's

893
00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:38,640
President Jimmy Carter who saw a UFO

894
00:39:44,089 --> 00:39:41,220
which he thinks he did you know our

895
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:44,099
farmer Bob it doesn't matter everybody

896
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:46,560
has eyes and ears and a brain that

897
00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:49,440
perceives and so on I think they're all

898
00:39:56,510 --> 00:39:52,980
equally unreliable as eyewitnesses we're

899
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:56,520
very bad at recounting things we think

900
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:01,609
my husband and I were flying our

901
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:04,440
airplane it was at night and we saw a

902
00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:07,320
light we saw a bright light a two

903
00:40:10,670 --> 00:40:09,300
o'clock position

904
00:40:13,609 --> 00:40:10,680
and

905
00:40:16,010 --> 00:40:13,619
it was one of those oh my goodness kind

906
00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:16,020
of moments Jack do you see that yeah I

907
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,940
see that and it's it's there really is a

908
00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:19,920
light there right and it's it look it's

909
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:22,320
coming towards us right

910
00:40:29,569 --> 00:40:25,920
it was this I know I'm seeing something

911
00:40:32,750 --> 00:40:31,250
and we you know we just sort of we

912
00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:32,760
looked at each we said this can't be

913
00:40:38,930 --> 00:40:36,780
happening to us we can't be seeing a UFO

914
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:38,940
you know we're so skeptical

915
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:42,720
but but look it's really there

916
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,420
and then clouds that we didn't realize

917
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,280
were there

918
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,200
spread apart enough

919
00:40:53,150 --> 00:40:51,119
to for us to understand that what we

920
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:53,160
were seeing was a piece of the Moon that

921
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,480
it was just shining through a hole in

922
00:41:01,210 --> 00:40:56,400
the clouds

923
00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:04,730
for scientists seeing is not believing

924
00:41:10,190 --> 00:41:07,140
for them only physical evidence will

925
00:41:12,589 --> 00:41:10,200
prove that UFOs are visiting Earth

926
00:41:14,530 --> 00:41:12,599
they do believe that life exists beyond

927
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,540
Earth and they have spent decades

928
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:16,560
searching for the first piece of

929
00:41:20,329 --> 00:41:16,880
evidence

930
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,339
[Music]

931
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:23,280
a spacecraft launched by NASA and the

932
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:26,220
European Space Agency traveled billions

933
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:30,660
of miles and in January 2005 landed a

934
00:41:35,710 --> 00:41:34,260
probe on Saturn's moon taiki

935
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,720
foreign

936
00:41:40,010 --> 00:41:38,160
spacecraft has ever landed so far from

937
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:40,020
Earth

938
00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:42,900
these images of Titan's surface suggest

939
00:41:47,569 --> 00:41:45,260
an active world of rivers and oceans

940
00:41:50,569 --> 00:41:47,579
scientists believe that where there is

941
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:50,579
liquid there may be life

942
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:53,760
if we look for life in our backyard our

943
00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:56,339
Cosmic backyard if we look there and

944
00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:57,900
find life

945
00:42:02,810 --> 00:42:00,900
imagine what that tells us

946
00:42:05,930 --> 00:42:02,820
that some other random place that

947
00:42:08,569 --> 00:42:05,940
happens to be a nearby planet

948
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:08,579
has life just the way we do

949
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:12,180
then there's no telling how rich the

950
00:42:18,170 --> 00:42:15,440
entire universe is with life

951
00:42:20,329 --> 00:42:18,180
there is still no evidence that the

952
00:42:22,490 --> 00:42:20,339
universe is Rich with life

953
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,500
but mainstream scientists think there

954
00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:24,480
has got to be life

955
00:42:30,050 --> 00:42:26,700
there's more than 100 billion stars in

956
00:42:33,290 --> 00:42:30,060
our Milky Way galaxy alone and there's

957
00:42:35,089 --> 00:42:33,300
more than 50 or 100 billion galaxies in

958
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:35,099
the universe you multiply these two

959
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:38,700
numbers that's a one with 21 zeros worth

960
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:41,880
of stars in the cosmos to suggest that

961
00:42:48,530 --> 00:42:45,440
we're alone is inexcusably egocentric

962
00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:48,540
somewhere among the billions of stars in

963
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:51,540
our galaxy or in the billions of other

964
00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:54,480
galaxies in the universe scientists

965
00:42:58,130 --> 00:42:57,060
believe there must be other planets just

966
00:42:59,950 --> 00:42:58,140
like Earth

967
00:43:02,870 --> 00:42:59,960
where life exists

968
00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:02,880
what created Earth and man must have

969
00:43:06,849 --> 00:43:04,980
created life somewhere else they say in

970
00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:06,859
the vastness of space

971
00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:09,240
somewhere there must be another

972
00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:11,160
developed civilization trying to reach

973
00:43:19,370 --> 00:43:17,930
Dr Frank Drake has been listening for 45

974
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:19,380
years

975
00:43:26,089 --> 00:43:22,560
in 1960 in Greenbank West Virginia Dr

976
00:43:30,589 --> 00:43:26,099
Drake first pointed a radio telescope at

977
00:43:32,809 --> 00:43:30,599
a nearby star to listen for a signal

978
00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:32,819
we just had this feeling that something

979
00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:35,160
very important was starting that this

980
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,020
was a new

981
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:39,359
road that human beings were taking that

982
00:43:43,250 --> 00:43:41,040
was going to lead to very wonderful

983
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:43,260
places and very wonderful things for our

984
00:43:46,670 --> 00:43:44,640
civilization

985
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:46,680
Dr Drake's experiment marked the

986
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:49,200
beginning of a project called seti the

987
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:51,599
search for extraterrestrial intelligence

988
00:43:57,290 --> 00:43:54,960
Dr Seth shastak is an astronomer who

989
00:44:00,650 --> 00:43:57,300
works with Drake at The seti Institute

990
00:44:02,990 --> 00:44:00,660
we've been broadcasting our existence to

991
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:03,000
the universe for the last 50 or 60 years

992
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:05,220
and and we've been doing that with our

993
00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:06,960
high-powered radio and television

994
00:44:10,849 --> 00:44:08,280
Transmissions

995
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:10,859
every day those signals just go right on

996
00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:13,020
out into space that's how we're

997
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:14,700
broadcasting this space and we kind of

998
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,220
turn that idea around when we try and

999
00:44:21,530 --> 00:44:19,200
find the extraterrestrials by trying to

1000
00:44:24,349 --> 00:44:21,540
find their broadcasts

1001
00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:24,359
Dr Drake remembers the day of his first

1002
00:44:30,829 --> 00:44:28,380
search in April 1960. for all we knew

1003
00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:30,839
every Star on the sky had a radio

1004
00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:32,760
transmitting civilization we might

1005
00:44:37,069 --> 00:44:34,920
succeed the first day we even had a tape

1006
00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:37,079
recorder connected to the radio receiver

1007
00:44:42,109 --> 00:44:39,480
so that we could tape record any voices

1008
00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:42,119
we might hear from the other world and

1009
00:44:46,970 --> 00:44:45,240
so we pointed at the first star and when

1010
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,980
it finally set in the west we moved over

1011
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,720
and pointed the telescope at the second

1012
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:50,400
star

1013
00:44:55,010 --> 00:44:53,700
and we heard on a loudspeaker

1014
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:55,020
a signal

1015
00:44:59,329 --> 00:44:57,119
like we had never heard before with the

1016
00:45:01,849 --> 00:44:59,339
radio telescope and it was a lot like a

1017
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:01,859
lot of people said we might detect a

1018
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:04,130
series of pulses it sounded like

1019
00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:12,589
all our hearts were pounding you think

1020
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,700
this may be one of the greatest moments

1021
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:16,560
in history unfolding right here before

1022
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,359
us

1023
00:45:21,950 --> 00:45:20,400
the signal turned out to be nothing more

1024
00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:21,960
than sound

1025
00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:24,780
from a passing plane

1026
00:45:30,050 --> 00:45:27,300
when you detect such a signal and it

1027
00:45:32,569 --> 00:45:30,060
truly looks to be extraterrestrial

1028
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:32,579
it's a very special emotion

1029
00:45:42,829 --> 00:45:38,569
after more than four decades Dr Drake

1030
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:42,839
has yet to hear an alien signal

1031
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:45,359
Dr Jill Tarter is another astronomer

1032
00:45:49,790 --> 00:45:47,160
working at seti

1033
00:45:53,150 --> 00:45:49,800
the chances of success

1034
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:53,160
in seti are difficult to estimate

1035
00:45:58,970 --> 00:45:56,160
but if we never search

1036
00:46:02,570 --> 00:45:58,980
the chance is zero

1037
00:46:13,970 --> 00:46:02,580
so I think what we ought to do is search

1038
00:46:17,150 --> 00:46:13,980
[Music]

1039
00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:17,160
at hat Creek in Northern California Safi

1040
00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:19,619
is building an array of telescopes that

1041
00:46:23,089 --> 00:46:20,940
will search for signs of

1042
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,099
extraterrestrial Intelligence on a scale

1043
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:25,920
never before attempted the project is

1044
00:46:32,450 --> 00:46:28,079
named after its largest donor the

1045
00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:37,250
let's go this Observatory is cited in a

1046
00:46:42,770 --> 00:46:40,380
very quiet pastoral Valley mostly cows

1047
00:46:44,930 --> 00:46:42,780
and a few people it's going to change a

1048
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:44,940
whole lot when we put 350 telescopes in

1049
00:46:50,210 --> 00:46:47,040
here and it's going to change even more

1050
00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:50,220
if indeed those telescopes detect a

1051
00:46:53,870 --> 00:46:52,619
signal from someone else's technology of

1052
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,880
course we don't know how many

1053
00:46:56,930 --> 00:46:55,440
civilizations out there might be

1054
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,940
broadcasting signals that we could pick

1055
00:47:01,790 --> 00:46:59,040
up the faster that you can go through

1056
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,800
all that Heavenly real estate the sooner

1057
00:47:06,109 --> 00:47:03,839
you're going to find a signal

1058
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:06,119
and if that happens this is where it

1059
00:47:09,290 --> 00:47:07,680
will happen it'll happen right here this

1060
00:47:10,670 --> 00:47:09,300
is this is kind of the portal to the

1061
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:10,680
Cosmos this is the place where we're

1062
00:47:13,609 --> 00:47:11,700
gonna

1063
00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:13,619
Crystal of isolation that is surrounded

1064
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,300
this planet for four and a half billion

1065
00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:17,280
years right here right here in months

1066
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:19,020
the trees and the lava and the bright

1067
00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:20,880
sunshine and drank a little champagne

1068
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:25,730
we will build it and I hope they will

1069
00:47:29,410 --> 00:47:27,420
come or at least in the form of their

1070
00:47:33,410 --> 00:47:29,420
radio waves

1071
00:47:35,569 --> 00:47:33,420
some UFO Believers belittle seti why

1072
00:47:36,589 --> 00:47:35,579
search the heavens for an elusive signal

1073
00:47:38,809 --> 00:47:36,599
they ask

1074
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:38,819
when the extraterrestrials are already

1075
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,180
here if I thought that extraterrestrials

1076
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:44,160
were really visiting the earth I

1077
00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:45,960
wouldn't be doing this none of us would

1078
00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:48,060
be why would we go to all the trouble

1079
00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:50,520
building this very complex equipment and

1080
00:47:54,349 --> 00:47:52,680
these expensive antenna race and so

1081
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:54,359
forth and so on if they were here it's

1082
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,079
just not proven that any UFO is a

1083
00:48:01,849 --> 00:48:00,240
spacecraft from another intelligent

1084
00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:01,859
species on the other hand it must be

1085
00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:03,420
said that we haven't shown that the

1086
00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:05,460
extraterrestrials exist either

1087
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,800
but we don't make the claim that we have

1088
00:48:11,630 --> 00:48:09,599
I think that's a big difference we will

1089
00:48:13,970 --> 00:48:11,640
only claim success when we really know

1090
00:48:16,970 --> 00:48:13,980
we have found something extraterrestrial

1091
00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:16,980
if we claim something there will be data

1092
00:48:20,750 --> 00:48:19,079
to back it up doggone it we're going to

1093
00:48:23,089 --> 00:48:20,760
tell you it's up there at these

1094
00:48:25,490 --> 00:48:23,099
coordinates in the sky it's at this spot

1095
00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:25,500
on the dial at this frequency so take

1096
00:48:28,609 --> 00:48:26,940
out your own antenna and go out and

1097
00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:28,619
verify it we would encourage you to

1098
00:48:34,490 --> 00:48:31,500
verify it okay and that's that's that's

1099
00:48:37,250 --> 00:48:34,500
the difference between science and myth

1100
00:48:43,970 --> 00:48:40,130
when we come back the making of a myth

1101
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:52,630
being is believing continues

1102
00:48:57,530 --> 00:48:55,609
foreign for many of those who believe

1103
00:48:59,690 --> 00:48:57,540
that the Earth has been visited by

1104
00:49:02,690 --> 00:48:59,700
extraterrestrial spacecraft

1105
00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:02,700
this remote New Mexico Ranch is Hallowed

1106
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:08,089
The Story Goes that it was here in the

1107
00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:10,500
summer of 1947 that one of the greatest

1108
00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:12,420
discoveries in human history was made

1109
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:15,960
the Holy Grail of ufology concrete

1110
00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:18,660
evidence proving the existence of alien

1111
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,220
life

1112
00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:22,319
major Jesse Marcel the intelligence

1113
00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:25,020
officer at the Army Air Base in Roswell

1114
00:49:31,550 --> 00:49:28,440
receives a telephone call the call is to

1115
00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:31,560
go to the ranch of mac brasel and

1116
00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:33,900
investigate some material that Brazil

1117
00:49:39,650 --> 00:49:36,420
has found on his land

1118
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:39,660
Marcel goes to the ranch and brings back

1119
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,440
a load of debris and this stuff was

1120
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:45,119
extraordinary

1121
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:48,180
Jesse Marcel was absolutely convinced

1122
00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:50,880
what he found was extraterrestrial that

1123
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:58,370
split up his car with a strange wreckage

1124
00:50:03,290 --> 00:50:01,440
and drove the 75 miles to Roswell

1125
00:50:06,109 --> 00:50:03,300
he stopped at his home to show his wife

1126
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:06,119
and 11 year old son Jesse Jr what he had

1127
00:50:10,010 --> 00:50:06,960
found

1128
00:50:12,109 --> 00:50:10,020
walked my mother myself up saying I want

1129
00:50:13,069 --> 00:50:12,119
you to look at this I mean I can

1130
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,079
remember it just like it happened

1131
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:15,839
yesterday the type of material that was

1132
00:50:19,609 --> 00:50:17,400
there

1133
00:50:23,450 --> 00:50:19,619
the most curious part of the debris that

1134
00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:23,460
I saw were the i-beams the structural

1135
00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:25,800
members with pinkish Violet writing

1136
00:50:31,390 --> 00:50:28,560
along the inside surface it's more like

1137
00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:31,400
geometric symbols it was very impressive

1138
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:33,540
when you see something that impressive

1139
00:50:43,309 --> 00:50:41,089
Marcel senior took the debris to the

1140
00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:43,319
Army Air Force Base at Roswell early in

1141
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,020
the morning of July the 8th and by noon

1142
00:50:50,569 --> 00:50:48,000
the base commander Colonel William

1143
00:50:52,849 --> 00:50:50,579
Blanchard authorized a press release

1144
00:50:56,780 --> 00:50:52,859
proclaiming that what Marcel had found

1145
00:50:58,190 --> 00:50:56,790
was the remains of a flying saucer

1146
00:51:02,270 --> 00:50:58,200
[Music]

1147
00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:02,280
Headline Edition July 8 1947 the Army

1148
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,020
Air Forces has announced that a flying

1149
00:51:08,450 --> 00:51:06,240
disc has been found and is now in the

1150
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:08,460
possession of the army army officers say

1151
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:10,260
the missile has been inspected at

1152
00:51:15,730 --> 00:51:12,540
Roswell New Mexico and sent to right

1153
00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:15,740
field Ohio for further inspection

1154
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:18,180
there was a tremendous public excitement

1155
00:51:21,710 --> 00:51:19,920
I mean the newspaper archives from that

1156
00:51:23,329 --> 00:51:21,720
time it was just all over the place I

1157
00:51:25,370 --> 00:51:23,339
mean it was national news it was a big

1158
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:25,380
deal and people were very excited and

1159
00:51:31,069 --> 00:51:28,260
very frightened and everything else

1160
00:51:33,950 --> 00:51:31,079
for one moment in history Roswell New

1161
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:33,960
Mexico could claim to be the only place

1162
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,660
on Earth where evidence existed

1163
00:51:40,849 --> 00:51:38,880
that this planet was being visited by

1164
00:51:42,750 --> 00:51:40,859
alien spacecraft

1165
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:42,760
it was a short moment

1166
00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:44,400
[Music]

1167
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:46,380
the next day there is a press conference

1168
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:48,540
a press conference organized by General

1169
00:51:54,349 --> 00:51:51,839
Roger Ramey and Roger Ramey says we did

1170
00:51:57,049 --> 00:51:54,359
not recover in a flying saucer this is

1171
00:51:58,670 --> 00:51:57,059
no flying disc what we recovered was a

1172
00:52:01,490 --> 00:51:58,680
weather balloon

1173
00:52:04,250 --> 00:52:01,500
the papers reported General raymie mt's

1174
00:52:07,069 --> 00:52:04,260
Roswell susser the Army Air Force

1175
00:52:09,170 --> 00:52:07,079
reduced Marcel's Discovery to nothing

1176
00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:09,180
more than a harmless high altitude

1177
00:52:13,609 --> 00:52:11,400
weather balloon

1178
00:52:14,990 --> 00:52:13,619
the public accepted it

1179
00:52:17,210 --> 00:52:15,000
there was this was immediately in the

1180
00:52:19,210 --> 00:52:17,220
wake of World War II and I think most

1181
00:52:22,190 --> 00:52:19,220
people basically trusted the government

1182
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:22,200
and so you know they had no doubt that

1183
00:52:25,609 --> 00:52:23,400
this was genuine and this was true of

1184
00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:25,619
the press as well there was very little

1185
00:52:29,329 --> 00:52:27,480
skepticism about it and it just kind of

1186
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:29,339
went away

1187
00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:31,920
for 30 years no one paid any attention

1188
00:52:36,530 --> 00:52:33,660
to the events at Roswell

1189
00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:36,540
Jesse Marcel's story of a flying saucer

1190
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:38,940
that crashed might still be forgotten

1191
00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:41,760
were it not for a ufologist named

1192
00:52:48,349 --> 00:52:46,200
Stanton Friedman I got involved in 1978.

1193
00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:48,359
I was at a television station in Baton

1194
00:52:52,849 --> 00:52:51,180
Rouge Louisiana the station manager out

1195
00:52:54,290 --> 00:52:52,859
of the blue

1196
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:54,300
he says you know the guy you ought to

1197
00:53:00,170 --> 00:52:57,599
talk to is Jesse Marcel he handled the

1198
00:53:01,790 --> 00:53:00,180
wreckage of one of those saucers you're

1199
00:53:05,089 --> 00:53:01,800
interested in when he was in the

1200
00:53:08,030 --> 00:53:05,099
military what Stanton Friedman found

1201
00:53:10,370 --> 00:53:08,040
Jessie Marcel he was retired from the

1202
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:10,380
military and was a television repairman

1203
00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:14,160
in Houma Louisiana Marcel had a story to

1204
00:53:19,549 --> 00:53:17,339
tell what I saw I couldn't believe there

1205
00:53:21,710 --> 00:53:19,559
was so much of it it was scattered it

1206
00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:21,720
was such a vast area

1207
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,819
we found a piece of metal

1208
00:53:28,430 --> 00:53:26,160
about about a foot and a half to two

1209
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,440
feet wide you couldn't even bend it you

1210
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:30,240
couldn't get it even with the

1211
00:53:35,329 --> 00:53:32,160
sledgehammer would bounce off it

1212
00:53:37,730 --> 00:53:35,339
so it was not anything from this Earth

1213
00:53:40,609 --> 00:53:37,740
that I'm quite sure of

1214
00:53:42,650 --> 00:53:40,619
my dad finally came to conclusion that

1215
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:42,660
this is a story that should not be

1216
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:45,359
contained or buried he felt it was time

1217
00:53:51,530 --> 00:53:48,839
that people know the truth about this

1218
00:53:54,589 --> 00:53:51,540
but what is the truth the wreckage

1219
00:53:57,650 --> 00:53:54,599
hadn't been seen since 1947 so there was

1220
00:54:00,349 --> 00:53:57,660
no way to prove Jesse Marcel's claims

1221
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:00,359
which never stopped Stanton Friedman and

1222
00:54:06,589 --> 00:54:03,119
his fellow Roswell promoters

1223
00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:06,599
the first Roswell book appeared in 1980.

1224
00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:09,180
it said that what crashed was a flying

1225
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,400
saucer it said there was no evidence

1226
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:13,200
because the government was hiding it

1227
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:14,220
somewhere

1228
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:16,559
the government was engaged in a massive

1229
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:18,450
cover-up

1230
00:54:24,530 --> 00:54:21,839
[Music]

1231
00:54:27,170 --> 00:54:24,540
if there has been a UFO cover-up it

1232
00:54:29,690 --> 00:54:27,180
began in Roswell New Mexico

1233
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:29,700
a persistent rumor holds that the United

1234
00:54:35,329 --> 00:54:32,160
States government has recovered and is

1235
00:54:38,690 --> 00:54:35,339
concealing fragments of alien spacecraft

1236
00:54:40,730 --> 00:54:38,700
fragments and more this all came

1237
00:54:43,970 --> 00:54:40,740
together at a time when people were

1238
00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:43,980
ready to buy into conspiracy

1239
00:54:48,349 --> 00:54:46,260
and then you know in 1989 Unsolved

1240
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:48,359
Mysteries to the recreation of the whole

1241
00:54:53,870 --> 00:54:52,319
event and Off to the Races we go this

1242
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,880
Air Force Base here in Roswell New

1243
00:54:59,089 --> 00:54:55,920
Mexico the center of a controversy back

1244
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,099
in 1947 but over 40 years later still

1245
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:01,920
remains unsung Jesse Marcel's story

1246
00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:04,500
about a day long ago was becoming an

1247
00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:07,020
article of faith and the promoters were

1248
00:55:10,130 --> 00:55:08,700
busy spinning it every way they could

1249
00:55:12,410 --> 00:55:10,140
you think there was a government

1250
00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:12,420
cover-up there's no question about that

1251
00:55:17,809 --> 00:55:14,280
not only about this case but lots of

1252
00:55:20,089 --> 00:55:17,819
other UFO cases after investigating for

1253
00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:20,099
their new book Kevin Randall and Don

1254
00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:22,500
Schmidt are convinced it was a military

1255
00:55:26,990 --> 00:55:25,500
cover-up a parade of new Witnesses came

1256
00:55:28,970 --> 00:55:27,000
out of the woodwork to share the

1257
00:55:31,730 --> 00:55:28,980
Limelight with Tales of secret

1258
00:55:33,950 --> 00:55:31,740
government activity and alien bodies

1259
00:55:37,730 --> 00:55:33,960
found in the wreckage there's a small

1260
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:37,740
nose eyes like this about how I talked

1261
00:55:44,650 --> 00:55:42,240
about five five three five four some of

1262
00:55:46,670 --> 00:55:44,660
the tallest Athletics

1263
00:55:48,829 --> 00:55:46,680
extraterrestrials were found in Roswell

1264
00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:48,839
yes dead dead extraterrestrials were

1265
00:55:53,930 --> 00:55:51,000
found no question about it this is an

1266
00:55:56,569 --> 00:55:53,940
incredible Story aliens the federal

1267
00:55:58,790 --> 00:55:56,579
government intimidation we have a best

1268
00:56:01,609 --> 00:55:58,800
seller on our hands the people who are

1269
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:01,619
promoting Roswell realize that there is

1270
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:04,319
a gold rush to Roswell there is money to

1271
00:56:08,809 --> 00:56:06,540
be made but your book is only going to

1272
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:08,819
sell if your charges are more grandiose

1273
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:11,760
more exaggerated more powerful so you

1274
00:56:17,690 --> 00:56:13,680
have this ladder of escalation of

1275
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:17,700
sensationalism in 1995 Fox television

1276
00:56:22,609 --> 00:56:20,400
broadcast what they promoted as recently

1277
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:22,619
discovered film of an alien autopsy

1278
00:56:26,510 --> 00:56:24,180
performed at Roswell

1279
00:56:28,430 --> 00:56:26,520
it was seen by more than 20 million

1280
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:28,440
viewers all right I want to show you

1281
00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:32,160
something and then came The X-Files this

1282
00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:33,480
is a photo

1283
00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:35,460
of a UFO that reportedly crashed in

1284
00:56:41,089 --> 00:56:38,339
Roswell New Mexico in 1947. Jesse

1285
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:41,099
Marcel's unproven story was now Prime

1286
00:56:52,250 --> 00:56:49,309
spacecraft wreckage

1287
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:52,260
they salvaged various alien technology

1288
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,200
from them and from their data banks they

1289
00:56:59,950 --> 00:56:58,319
learned of the alien plan to recolonize

1290
00:57:02,569 --> 00:56:59,960
the Earth

1291
00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:02,579
decades after something fell from the

1292
00:57:08,349 --> 00:57:04,440
sky outside Roswell this remote New

1293
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:10,549
it didn't matter that there wasn't a

1294
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:12,420
shred of evidence to support the claim

1295
00:57:15,950 --> 00:57:14,460
that a flying saucer crashed here

1296
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:15,960
it didn't matter that there were no

1297
00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:18,420
credible witnesses to alien bodies

1298
00:57:24,109 --> 00:57:20,940
on the 50th anniversary of the alleged

1299
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:24,119
crash 65 percent of Americans told a

1300
00:57:28,430 --> 00:57:26,760
Time Magazine CNN poll that they

1301
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:28,440
believed the story

1302
00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:30,900
the myth that is

1303
00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:33,000
the crowds come to celebrate the place

1304
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:35,460
where the truth about flying saucers and

1305
00:57:42,290 --> 00:57:38,880
alien life was revealed

1306
00:57:44,930 --> 00:57:42,300
as for the strange debris itself

1307
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:44,940
good afternoon ladies and gentlemen in

1308
00:57:51,950 --> 00:57:48,480
1994 and 1997 in reports called the

1309
00:57:54,410 --> 00:57:51,960
Roswell incident and case solved the Air

1310
00:57:56,809 --> 00:57:54,420
Force offered its explanation

1311
00:57:59,150 --> 00:57:56,819
we're confident once the report is out

1312
00:58:01,790 --> 00:57:59,160
and digested by the public that this

1313
00:58:03,290 --> 00:58:01,800
will be the final word on the Roswell

1314
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:03,300
incident

1315
00:58:06,770 --> 00:58:04,980
the conclusion of the first report left

1316
00:58:09,950 --> 00:58:06,780
no doubt that what was recovered near

1317
00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:09,960
Roswell New Mexico in July 1947 was

1318
00:58:15,410 --> 00:58:12,900
debris from a formerly top secret army

1319
00:58:16,730 --> 00:58:15,420
Air Force's research project code name

1320
00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:16,740
mogul

1321
00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:19,380
project Mogul was so secret it had the

1322
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,660
same security classification as the

1323
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:24,000
project to build the atomic bomb

1324
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:26,640
these high altitude Balloons with their

1325
00:58:32,089 --> 00:58:29,280
instrumentation were designed to detect

1326
00:58:34,990 --> 00:58:32,099
Soviet nuclear tests they were

1327
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:35,000
tremendous in size as long as 650 feet

1328
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,839
and in 1947 nothing else on Earth looked

1329
00:58:44,329 --> 00:58:41,119
like this

1330
00:58:46,970 --> 00:58:44,339
when I began to look at the reports from

1331
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:46,980
that project and see the kinds of

1332
00:58:52,370 --> 00:58:49,200
materials that were used weather

1333
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:52,380
balloons aluminum foil covered radar

1334
00:58:57,289 --> 00:58:55,440
targets that had struts that had funny

1335
00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:57,299
little markings in purple and pink all

1336
00:59:02,210 --> 00:59:00,000
over them and then I took a look at the

1337
00:59:04,970 --> 00:59:02,220
descriptions of a genuine debris that

1338
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,980
was found it all matched

1339
00:59:09,470 --> 00:59:07,200
it all fit

1340
00:59:12,109 --> 00:59:09,480
so the irony of all of this is the the

1341
00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:12,119
great Roswell mystery the great Roswell

1342
00:59:17,690 --> 00:59:15,420
cover of arose from a real cover-up but

1343
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:17,700
the intent was not to protect knowledge

1344
00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:19,680
of a crash Flying Saucer but to protect

1345
00:59:25,010 --> 00:59:21,900
a very Earthly project

1346
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:25,020
to this day roswell's True Believers

1347
00:59:29,809 --> 00:59:27,119
dismiss everything the Air Force had to

1348
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:29,819
say they believe the government cover-up

1349
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,160
continues

1350
00:59:37,250 --> 00:59:34,559
I think that Roswell has become an

1351
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:37,260
article of faith for many people it

1352
00:59:40,970 --> 00:59:38,640
happened and that's all there is to it

1353
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:40,980
and don't confuse me with the facts I

1354
00:59:46,010 --> 00:59:43,440
don't think that the hardcore Believers

1355
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:46,020
will ever give up on Roswell

1356
00:59:53,870 --> 00:59:49,920
they cling to a myth a myth that here

1357
00:59:56,930 --> 00:59:53,880
outside Roswell in 1947 the question of

1358
01:00:00,370 --> 00:59:56,940
are we alone was finally answered

1359
01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:03,230
UFOs seeing is believing will return in

1360
01:00:07,309 --> 01:00:05,700
a moment UFOs seeing is believing

1361
01:00:09,289 --> 01:00:07,319
continues

1362
01:00:10,730 --> 01:00:09,299
if you were to go to a UFO convention

1363
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:10,740
and there are hundreds of them every

1364
01:00:15,170 --> 01:00:12,960
year you would likely find a lot of

1365
01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:15,180
attention being paid to people who say

1366
01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:18,420
they have been abducted by aliens

1367
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:21,180
reporting the UFO story is incomplete

1368
01:00:24,849 --> 01:00:23,280
without this facet of it however you

1369
01:00:28,370 --> 01:00:24,859
judge the people you're about to hear

1370
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:28,380
bear this in mind the serious

1371
01:00:32,809 --> 01:00:31,140
psychologists you will also meet tell us

1372
01:00:35,270 --> 01:00:32,819
there's no reason to believe that your

1373
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:35,280
average abductee is any more

1374
01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:37,680
psychiatrically impaired than the

1375
01:00:43,370 --> 01:00:40,799
average person in the population

1376
01:00:46,130 --> 01:00:43,380
we're perfectly normal people we're

1377
01:00:47,630 --> 01:00:46,140
probably your co-workers your family or

1378
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:47,640
your friends and we're having quite

1379
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:51,599
extraordinary experiences and we're all

1380
01:00:58,670 --> 01:00:54,240
trying to understand what's happening to

1381
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:01,789
I had gone down to bed that night when

1382
01:01:09,230 --> 01:01:06,720
four of these beings came into my house

1383
01:01:10,190 --> 01:01:09,240
and I was still awake laying down in my

1384
01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:10,200
bed

1385
01:01:14,510 --> 01:01:12,780
I don't know where they came from

1386
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:14,520
or

1387
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:16,020
how

1388
01:01:19,849 --> 01:01:18,240
but it came in very fast into the room

1389
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:19,859
heading toward me

1390
01:01:26,089 --> 01:01:22,559
and then they were all down the side of

1391
01:01:27,410 --> 01:01:26,099
my bed four of them again

1392
01:01:31,970 --> 01:01:27,420
um

1393
01:01:34,910 --> 01:01:31,980
to my right I turned to face face them I

1394
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:34,920
mean I was I really literally thought I

1395
01:01:38,990 --> 01:01:36,480
was gonna die

1396
01:01:41,390 --> 01:01:39,000
the beings measured three feet eleven

1397
01:01:45,049 --> 01:01:41,400
they appeared very cold

1398
01:01:46,430 --> 01:01:45,059
it's really really disturbing to be in a

1399
01:01:48,530 --> 01:01:46,440
room with something that isn't supposed

1400
01:01:51,650 --> 01:01:48,540
to exist

1401
01:01:55,130 --> 01:01:51,660
where it was taken on The Craft

1402
01:01:57,230 --> 01:01:55,140
I was brought to some it's very

1403
01:01:59,329 --> 01:01:57,240
contained room

1404
01:02:05,510 --> 01:01:59,339
I can't talk about what was done there

1405
01:02:10,609 --> 01:02:06,440
unbelievable

1406
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,230
they're in my room

1407
01:02:15,410 --> 01:02:14,400
they're in the room the two are on my

1408
01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:15,420
left

1409
01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:21,540
they're there bud Hopkins is an artist

1410
01:02:27,890 --> 01:02:24,420
who spent the last 25 years exploring

1411
01:02:30,049 --> 01:02:27,900
his belief that aliens are among us and

1412
01:02:32,329 --> 01:02:30,059
have been abducting people

1413
01:02:33,289 --> 01:02:32,339
and what do they look like four foot

1414
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:33,299
tall

1415
01:02:40,190 --> 01:02:38,160
story after Story of people being taken

1416
01:02:42,289 --> 01:02:40,200
onto spaceships and then returned to

1417
01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:42,299
Earth with their memory clouded or

1418
01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:46,079
erased I can't even move

1419
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,900
I can't even move I'm trying to as I've

1420
01:02:52,750 --> 01:02:50,640
been working with

1421
01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:52,760
um abductees over the years

1422
01:02:56,990 --> 01:02:55,200
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds there

1423
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:57,000
seems to be no doubt that this has been

1424
01:03:01,309 --> 01:02:58,799
going on for decades

1425
01:03:04,970 --> 01:03:01,319
maybe not at the rate that it has been

1426
01:03:09,170 --> 01:03:04,980
lately but that nobody knew who to

1427
01:03:10,849 --> 01:03:09,180
report this to and most people feel that

1428
01:03:13,609 --> 01:03:10,859
it's just impossible that this could

1429
01:03:15,890 --> 01:03:13,619
have happened to them it is Hopkins who

1430
01:03:17,690 --> 01:03:15,900
has convinced a large part of the UFO

1431
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:17,700
community that the phenomenon of

1432
01:03:23,390 --> 01:03:20,880
abduction is real I've been collecting

1433
01:03:26,089 --> 01:03:23,400
drawing sketches people have made of

1434
01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:26,099
what they remember inside craft and

1435
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,960
especially the faces of aliens I've been

1436
01:03:33,010 --> 01:03:29,280
doing this for years and years since

1437
01:03:36,109 --> 01:03:33,020
actually uh starting probably

1438
01:03:38,569 --> 01:03:36,119
1975. of course the enormous Cranium is

1439
01:03:40,609 --> 01:03:38,579
the is the big feature the mouth is very

1440
01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:40,619
negligible tiny

1441
01:03:45,890 --> 01:03:43,920
slip Bud Hopkins was the first he

1442
01:03:47,870 --> 01:03:45,900
published books and magazine articles

1443
01:03:50,930 --> 01:03:47,880
made public appearances

1444
01:03:52,849 --> 01:03:50,940
and then others followed abduction is

1445
01:03:54,109 --> 01:03:52,859
now a common theme in movies and

1446
01:03:58,130 --> 01:03:54,119
television

1447
01:04:00,410 --> 01:03:58,140
according to a Roper poll in 2002 one in

1448
01:04:03,530 --> 01:04:00,420
five Americans believe that abductions

1449
01:04:08,210 --> 01:04:06,470
for the so-called abductees the memories

1450
01:04:10,730 --> 01:04:08,220
of what they say they have experienced

1451
01:04:13,549 --> 01:04:10,740
are deeply traumatic

1452
01:04:16,510 --> 01:04:13,559
most of the abduction experiences that

1453
01:04:18,829 --> 01:04:16,520
I've had have been from my bed

1454
01:04:22,010 --> 01:04:18,839
in the middle of the night this is not

1455
01:04:26,089 --> 01:04:22,020
all however the great majority

1456
01:04:28,609 --> 01:04:26,099
I'll be in bed and um I will somehow

1457
01:04:32,030 --> 01:04:28,619
sense fear I'll sense something in the

1458
01:04:33,410 --> 01:04:32,040
room and at some point I can't move I

1459
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:33,420
couldn't move my head left or right but

1460
01:04:37,010 --> 01:04:34,799
I could kind of look down at the foot of

1461
01:04:38,930 --> 01:04:37,020
the bed and I saw people standing at the

1462
01:04:43,370 --> 01:04:38,940
foot on my bed I see these eyes these

1463
01:04:48,710 --> 01:04:46,309
and then I don't remember anything

1464
01:04:52,910 --> 01:04:48,720
I woke up the following morning the

1465
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:52,920
person may remember the beginning of an

1466
01:04:58,849 --> 01:04:56,160
experience and the ending but they don't

1467
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:58,859
remember what happened in between and

1468
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:01,440
they're quite tormented by this

1469
01:05:06,829 --> 01:05:04,799
they come to me and we'll proceed with

1470
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:06,839
the investigation

1471
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:10,079
in most cases Hopkins uses hypnosis in

1472
01:05:13,789 --> 01:05:12,000
what he says is a way to connect the

1473
01:05:15,530 --> 01:05:13,799
person to memories that have allegedly

1474
01:05:17,230 --> 01:05:15,540
been repressed

1475
01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:17,240
feeling comfortable

1476
01:05:22,910 --> 01:05:20,400
relaxed hypnosis has been extremely

1477
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:22,920
useful when the person is physically

1478
01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:24,180
relaxed

1479
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:26,880
some of the static and be cleared away

1480
01:05:32,690 --> 01:05:28,559
and the person has a clear recollection

1481
01:05:33,950 --> 01:05:32,700
of what happened you're in bed one is a

1482
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:33,960
long time ago we're just going to see

1483
01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:37,680
what it was two right on the edge

1484
01:05:42,109 --> 01:05:39,599
three

1485
01:05:44,089 --> 01:05:42,119
he's looking at me very closely

1486
01:05:45,470 --> 01:05:44,099
I'm saying he but I don't know it feels

1487
01:05:47,809 --> 01:05:45,480
like a he

1488
01:05:50,690 --> 01:05:47,819
one of the things of course that

1489
01:05:52,730 --> 01:05:50,700
I'm caught my attention from the from

1490
01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:52,740
the very beginning was the similarity of

1491
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:55,020
these cases and the details that were

1492
01:05:59,569 --> 01:05:57,359
coming up over and over again

1493
01:06:02,569 --> 01:05:59,579
through hypnotic regression I came to

1494
01:06:05,030 --> 01:06:02,579
realize that there was a spaceship maybe

1495
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:05,040
100 feet in the air off to the left of

1496
01:06:10,430 --> 01:06:08,160
my front of my house and

1497
01:06:12,890 --> 01:06:10,440
though an alien came in was next to my

1498
01:06:15,049 --> 01:06:12,900
next to my bed it put its hand out

1499
01:06:17,089 --> 01:06:15,059
and I put my hand out

1500
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:17,099
sort of a chalky skin

1501
01:06:21,530 --> 01:06:18,720
um

1502
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:21,540
very dry to the touch

1503
01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:24,720
and I don't really remember how but

1504
01:06:28,430 --> 01:06:26,460
suddenly we were sort of floating they

1505
01:06:32,329 --> 01:06:28,440
brought me in front of a being that was

1506
01:06:35,210 --> 01:06:32,339
so horrifying that I'll never be able to

1507
01:06:39,049 --> 01:06:35,220
you know put it out of my memory it was

1508
01:06:41,930 --> 01:06:39,059
a very tall probably about seven foot

1509
01:06:44,329 --> 01:06:41,940
tall very tall and very thin and very

1510
01:06:47,089 --> 01:06:44,339
scary and and sometimes almost um like

1511
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:47,099
an insect very frightening to me and I

1512
01:06:53,390 --> 01:06:48,960
find myself in this room and I was lying

1513
01:06:59,390 --> 01:06:55,430
I I don't even know how to say this he

1514
01:07:01,789 --> 01:06:59,400
started to put my legs apart they put

1515
01:07:03,529 --> 01:07:01,799
like a jock strap on your of some sort

1516
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:03,539
with a tube attached to it and it runs

1517
01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:05,280
to a machine and they somehow extract

1518
01:07:09,289 --> 01:07:07,740
sperm I don't know how they do it

1519
01:07:13,130 --> 01:07:09,299
and this

1520
01:07:15,289 --> 01:07:13,140
female brought a baby and and she sort

1521
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:15,299
of handed him to me

1522
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,720
and I instantly said uh this baby is

1523
01:07:23,930 --> 01:07:21,119
mine I know I know he's mine she pulled

1524
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:23,940
a baby away from me and said no this

1525
01:07:29,930 --> 01:07:26,880
baby is ours

1526
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:29,940
five you're starting to wake up

1527
01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:34,799
for waking up three almost away two one

1528
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:37,980
fully awake I'm glad we did that yeah we

1529
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:41,039
didn't know those things yeah bud has

1530
01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:42,960
been looking at it for a long time and I

1531
01:07:49,069 --> 01:07:46,500
I very much like his um

1532
01:07:50,690 --> 01:07:49,079
his understanding of it and how he he

1533
01:07:53,690 --> 01:07:50,700
helps people

1534
01:07:55,730 --> 01:07:53,700
he's a good man Hopkins Reliance on

1535
01:07:58,029 --> 01:07:55,740
hypnosis to recover memories is

1536
01:08:02,089 --> 01:07:58,039
challenged by professional psychologists

1537
01:08:05,870 --> 01:08:02,099
there is no evidence that hypnosis will

1538
01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,880
help you retrieve memories or if it does

1539
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:07,440
retrieve memories that the memories that

1540
01:08:12,770 --> 01:08:10,079
get retrieved are in fact accurate what

1541
01:08:13,549 --> 01:08:12,780
does happen under hypnosis is that you

1542
01:08:17,150 --> 01:08:13,559
feel

1543
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,160
that the experience is real or lends

1544
01:08:21,709 --> 01:08:19,679
credibility to what's emerging but most

1545
01:08:24,050 --> 01:08:21,719
likely what you're what's emerging is

1546
01:08:26,749 --> 01:08:24,060
the product of fantasy and of suggestion

1547
01:08:28,849 --> 01:08:26,759
Dr Susan Clancy and other research

1548
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:28,859
psychologists at Harvard University who

1549
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:31,440
have worked with the abductees think

1550
01:08:38,930 --> 01:08:34,080
that a common sleep disorder can explain

1551
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:41,930
the subjects that we interview when we

1552
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:43,920
ask them how did this all begin

1553
01:08:48,890 --> 01:08:46,380
they described an experience that sounds

1554
01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:48,900
strikingly like sleep paralysis what

1555
01:08:52,610 --> 01:08:51,000
happens is you wake up usually it's in

1556
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:52,620
the middle of the night and you feel

1557
01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:55,199
terrified you're paralyzed

1558
01:08:58,430 --> 01:08:55,759
um

1559
01:09:01,370 --> 01:08:58,440
overwhelmed with fear people report

1560
01:09:03,410 --> 01:09:01,380
feeling the presence of presence of

1561
01:09:05,870 --> 01:09:03,420
something in the room or you might sort

1562
01:09:06,890 --> 01:09:05,880
of see shapes or lights it's a very

1563
01:09:08,990 --> 01:09:06,900
common

1564
01:09:10,729 --> 01:09:09,000
experience what happens in one of these

1565
01:09:12,829 --> 01:09:10,739
episodes is that a person is emerging

1566
01:09:14,450 --> 01:09:12,839
from rapid eye movement sleep REM sleep

1567
01:09:16,010 --> 01:09:14,460
the stage of sleep when we do most of

1568
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:16,020
our dreaming

1569
01:09:20,150 --> 01:09:18,239
when we are in REM sleep our entire body

1570
01:09:22,610 --> 01:09:20,160
is paralyzed it's probably a good thing

1571
01:09:24,169 --> 01:09:22,620
otherwise you act out our dreams

1572
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:24,179
but in one of these episodes what

1573
01:09:27,229 --> 01:09:25,199
happens

1574
01:09:29,209 --> 01:09:27,239
is it the person's eyes can open they

1575
01:09:30,890 --> 01:09:29,219
can see their bedroom they're awake

1576
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:30,900
they're conscious and they're also aware

1577
01:09:34,669 --> 01:09:32,880
that they're totally paralyzed

1578
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:34,679
and suddenly they feel tingling

1579
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:36,480
Sensations coursing through their body

1580
01:09:40,849 --> 01:09:38,400
they'll see lights flashing sounds

1581
01:09:42,650 --> 01:09:40,859
buzzing and feel a sense of presence in

1582
01:09:44,090 --> 01:09:42,660
the bedroom

1583
01:09:46,189 --> 01:09:44,100
if you don't know what this is can be

1584
01:09:47,870 --> 01:09:46,199
very frightening experience

1585
01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:47,880
these sorts of episodes have been

1586
01:09:50,930 --> 01:09:49,020
reported throughout history and

1587
01:09:52,490 --> 01:09:50,940
throughout cultures the incubi the

1588
01:09:55,010 --> 01:09:52,500
succubi the demons that used to visit

1589
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:55,020
people in the Middle Ages but on our

1590
01:10:02,630 --> 01:09:57,120
subjects these visitors in the bedroom

1591
01:10:06,590 --> 01:10:05,030
and finally these individuals are

1592
01:10:08,990 --> 01:10:06,600
subjects will often go to

1593
01:10:11,330 --> 01:10:09,000
hypnotherapists often who are believe in

1594
01:10:13,010 --> 01:10:11,340
such things and will then hypnotize them

1595
01:10:14,810 --> 01:10:13,020
and do so-called regression sessions

1596
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:14,820
we'll take the person back to the moment

1597
01:10:18,890 --> 01:10:16,800
where they are paralyzed in bed and try

1598
01:10:20,270 --> 01:10:18,900
to find out what happened next at that

1599
01:10:22,430 --> 01:10:20,280
point you get these quote-unquote

1600
01:10:24,830 --> 01:10:22,440
memories emerging of being taken out of

1601
01:10:27,169 --> 01:10:24,840
the bedroom through the window up into a

1602
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:27,179
spaceship being experimented upon by

1603
01:10:30,290 --> 01:10:28,860
these alien beings participating in

1604
01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:30,300
hybrid breeding and all sorts of other

1605
01:10:36,130 --> 01:10:33,420
exotic adventures and so at this point

1606
01:10:39,410 --> 01:10:36,140
you've got yourself an alien abductee

1607
01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:39,420
the abductees reject any psychological

1608
01:10:43,570 --> 01:10:41,520
explanation they believe their

1609
01:10:46,669 --> 01:10:43,580
experiences are real

1610
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,679
you know it's not some vague Apparition

1611
01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:48,000
or something

1612
01:10:51,890 --> 01:10:50,580
these guys were three-dimensionally in

1613
01:10:53,930 --> 01:10:51,900
the room with me

1614
01:10:56,450 --> 01:10:53,940
what I remember is

1615
01:10:59,450 --> 01:10:56,460
definitely real it was very real to me

1616
01:11:02,750 --> 01:10:59,460
it's real these people were moved and

1617
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:02,760
terrified and touched by

1618
01:11:08,090 --> 01:11:04,800
their memories and what they believe

1619
01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:08,100
happened to them and uh

1620
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:11,460
that's why they believe I think if I had

1621
01:11:15,410 --> 01:11:13,440
recovered a memory like that I'd have a

1622
01:11:17,689 --> 01:11:15,420
hard time disbelieving it too if this is

1623
01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:17,699
real it has to do with every single one

1624
01:11:22,130 --> 01:11:20,460
of us and we need to know more I mean

1625
01:11:23,330 --> 01:11:22,140
there needs to be more questions asked

1626
01:11:24,460 --> 01:11:23,340
more

1627
01:11:25,810 --> 01:11:24,470
it's important

1628
01:11:28,610 --> 01:11:25,820
[Music]

1629
01:11:31,070 --> 01:11:28,620
because there is life in the universe

1630
01:11:36,130 --> 01:11:31,080
and we're babies

1631
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:38,930
UFOs seeing is believing will return

1632
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:42,239
believing continues once again Peter

1633
01:11:45,470 --> 01:11:43,440
Jennings

1634
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,480
did you ever wonder what a civilization

1635
01:11:49,850 --> 01:11:47,760
older than ours would look like say a

1636
01:11:52,370 --> 01:11:49,860
million years older than ours

1637
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:52,380
the American astronomer Carl Sagan often

1638
01:11:58,189 --> 01:11:55,679
wondered and we wonder too because with

1639
01:12:00,350 --> 01:11:58,199
all this talk of aliens visiting us they

1640
01:12:01,310 --> 01:12:00,360
must have some extraordinary means of

1641
01:12:03,410 --> 01:12:01,320
travel

1642
01:12:04,850 --> 01:12:03,420
Earth may be the Cradle of mankind but

1643
01:12:07,250 --> 01:12:04,860
we haven't got very far beyond the

1644
01:12:08,209 --> 01:12:07,260
Cradle our technology just isn't up to

1645
01:12:10,669 --> 01:12:08,219
it

1646
01:12:13,790 --> 01:12:10,679
the difficulty of going from star to

1647
01:12:16,669 --> 01:12:13,800
star or of an alien spacecraft reaching

1648
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:16,679
here is simply not to be underestimated

1649
01:12:21,709 --> 01:12:19,440
space travel is not

1650
01:12:24,580 --> 01:12:21,719
just like the movies

1651
01:12:30,970 --> 01:12:26,970
[Applause]

1652
01:12:34,910 --> 01:12:33,229
probably figures that Interstellar

1653
01:12:36,649 --> 01:12:34,920
travel is just a matter of having you

1654
01:12:38,209 --> 01:12:36,659
know dilithium crystals and Scotty down

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01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:38,219
in the engine room and you can do it

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01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:39,840
it's borderline on the simulator Captain

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01:12:45,709 --> 01:12:42,239
a kind of guarantee that you'll hold up

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01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:47,450
I don't mean to say that it's impossible

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01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:49,320
to do it I mean it doesn't violate the

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01:12:53,709 --> 01:12:50,880
laws of physics to go from one star

1661
01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:53,719
system to another but one shouldn't

1662
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,920
underestimate the difficulty of doing it

1663
01:12:59,810 --> 01:12:57,360
simply because we see it done every

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01:13:02,930 --> 01:12:59,820
night on television to seek out new life

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01:13:05,930 --> 01:13:02,940
and new civilizations

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01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:05,940
to boldly go where no one has gone

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01:13:10,430 --> 01:13:08,000
before

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01:13:12,649 --> 01:13:10,440
it's more than just a technological

1669
01:13:16,189 --> 01:13:12,659
problem it's more than just building a

1670
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:16,199
better rocket the distances are so vast

1671
01:13:22,250 --> 01:13:19,199
the energy requirements are so extreme

1672
01:13:25,790 --> 01:13:22,260
it would be very very difficult to

1673
01:13:30,590 --> 01:13:28,669
it is a law of science determined by

1674
01:13:33,290 --> 01:13:30,600
Einstein that nothing can travel faster

1675
01:13:36,350 --> 01:13:33,300
than the speed of light the 186 000

1676
01:13:38,810 --> 01:13:36,360
miles per second the fastest object made

1677
01:13:40,610 --> 01:13:38,820
by man ticks along at 11 miles per

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01:13:43,790 --> 01:13:40,620
second

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01:13:46,610 --> 01:13:43,800
Voyager would take 73 000 years to reach

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01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,620
the nearest star

1681
01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:49,199
scientifically we have a rule you want

1682
01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:50,400
to be alive at the end of your

1683
01:13:56,689 --> 01:13:53,940
experiment not dead so if you're gonna

1684
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:56,699
be a part of a space Expedition you want

1685
01:14:02,590 --> 01:13:59,520
to get there faster than your lifespan I

1686
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:02,600
think the notion of transporting people

1687
01:14:08,750 --> 01:14:06,239
as some people think to other planetary

1688
01:14:12,050 --> 01:14:08,760
systems beyond the solar our own solar

1689
01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:12,060
system is so far beyond

1690
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:16,020
plausible reality that it's a waste of

1691
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:17,820
time

1692
01:14:23,090 --> 01:14:20,400
and if we can't go there

1693
01:14:25,010 --> 01:14:23,100
many scientists tend to believe they

1694
01:14:27,229 --> 01:14:25,020
can't come here

1695
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:27,239
some people slam the door on the

1696
01:14:31,970 --> 01:14:29,520
question of other civilizations visiting

1697
01:14:35,689 --> 01:14:31,980
the Earth because distances are so far

1698
01:14:38,570 --> 01:14:35,699
away I say not so fast and the final

1699
01:14:40,010 --> 01:14:38,580
death of the universe Dr Michio Kaku is

1700
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:40,020
one of the leading theoretical

1701
01:14:44,810 --> 01:14:42,960
physicists in the world he is a

1702
01:14:47,450 --> 01:14:44,820
professor at the City University of New

1703
01:14:50,810 --> 01:14:47,460
York because Einstein's theory space and

1704
01:14:52,689 --> 01:14:50,820
time is a fabric the fundamental mistake

1705
01:14:55,130 --> 01:14:52,699
people make when thinking about

1706
01:14:57,290 --> 01:14:55,140
extraterrestrial intelligence is to

1707
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:57,300
assume that they're just like us except

1708
01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:00,719
a few hundred years more advanced I say

1709
01:15:06,830 --> 01:15:04,260
open your mind open your Consciousness

1710
01:15:08,770 --> 01:15:06,840
to the possibility that they are a

1711
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:08,780
million years ahead

1712
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,520
a civilization that could harness the

1713
01:15:16,490 --> 01:15:13,679
power of stars might be able to find a

1714
01:15:19,010 --> 01:15:16,500
shortcut through space and time

1715
01:15:21,229 --> 01:15:19,020
Einstein said you cannot go faster than

1716
01:15:23,810 --> 01:15:21,239
the speed of light however he left a

1717
01:15:26,510 --> 01:15:23,820
loophole open

1718
01:15:28,370 --> 01:15:26,520
this is a wormhole you know in school we

1719
01:15:30,890 --> 01:15:28,380
learned that a straight line is the

1720
01:15:33,709 --> 01:15:30,900
shortest distance between two points

1721
01:15:36,290 --> 01:15:33,719
but actually that's not true you see if

1722
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:36,300
you fold the sheet of paper and punch a

1723
01:15:40,130 --> 01:15:38,159
hole through it you begin to realize

1724
01:15:42,290 --> 01:15:40,140
that a wormhole is the shortest distance

1725
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:42,300
between two points

1726
01:15:47,390 --> 01:15:45,360
only those civilizations millions of

1727
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:47,400
years ahead of ours capable of

1728
01:15:52,910 --> 01:15:49,920
harnessing the power of billions of star

1729
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,920
systems have the ability perhaps to open

1730
01:15:57,410 --> 01:15:55,199
gateways through space and time to

1731
01:16:00,890 --> 01:15:57,420
travel through portals to go these

1732
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:00,900
enormous distances in a blink of an eye

1733
01:16:07,310 --> 01:16:04,080
a way perhaps for an alien vehicle to

1734
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:07,320
bridge the vastness of space

1735
01:16:13,130 --> 01:16:10,320
you simply cannot dismiss the

1736
01:16:15,950 --> 01:16:13,140
possibility that some of these UFO

1737
01:16:18,530 --> 01:16:15,960
sightings are actually sightings from

1738
01:16:21,530 --> 01:16:18,540
some object created by an advanced

1739
01:16:24,290 --> 01:16:21,540
civilization a civilization fought out

1740
01:16:26,930 --> 01:16:24,300
in space a civilization perhaps millions

1741
01:16:31,250 --> 01:16:26,940
of years ahead of us in technology you

1742
01:16:33,770 --> 01:16:31,260
simply cannot discount that possibility

1743
01:16:37,070 --> 01:16:33,780
but I have no idea where it was from I

1744
01:16:40,130 --> 01:16:37,080
just know that it was one unidentified

1745
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,140
and it was certainly flying it was it

1746
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:42,719
was a UFO for sure my God what did we

1747
01:16:47,149 --> 01:16:45,360
just see but we saw it and when you see

1748
01:16:51,649 --> 01:16:47,159
something of that sort your life is

1749
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,659
never ever the same I mean it is uh

1750
01:16:55,490 --> 01:16:53,280
like it just happened yesterday I

1751
01:16:58,370 --> 01:16:55,500
believe that the object that I saw was

1752
01:17:00,169 --> 01:16:58,380
extraterrestrial you can't even sleep

1753
01:17:02,209 --> 01:17:00,179
because you're thinking what in the

1754
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,219
world was it what was it and where it

1755
01:17:05,650 --> 01:17:04,560
came from where it came from we do not

1756
01:17:06,830 --> 01:17:05,660
know

1757
01:17:09,530 --> 01:17:06,840
[Music]

1758
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:09,540
I wish we did

1759
01:17:15,649 --> 01:17:12,480
when you look at this handful handful of

1760
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:15,659
cases that cannot be easily dismissed

1761
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,480
this is worthy this is worthy of

1762
01:17:22,850 --> 01:17:20,880
scientific investigation

1763
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:22,860
maybe there's nothing there

1764
01:17:28,430 --> 01:17:26,159
however on that off chance that there is

1765
01:17:31,130 --> 01:17:28,440
something there that could literally

1766
01:17:36,050 --> 01:17:31,140
change the course of human history so I

1767
01:17:39,290 --> 01:17:36,060
say let this investigation begin

1768
01:17:42,050 --> 01:17:39,300
Peter Jennings reporting UFOs seeing is

1769
01:17:44,270 --> 01:17:42,060
believing will return in a moment seeing

1770
01:17:46,370 --> 01:17:44,280
is believing continues

1771
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:46,380
we have often wondered in the course of

1772
01:17:51,050 --> 01:17:48,960
reporting on UFOs what we would do if we

1773
01:17:52,010 --> 01:17:51,060
thought we saw one who we'd share it

1774
01:17:54,050 --> 01:17:52,020
with

1775
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:54,060
most people want to tell someone

1776
01:17:57,470 --> 01:17:55,920
today if you call the local Air Force

1777
01:17:59,810 --> 01:17:57,480
Base or even the Federal Aviation

1778
01:18:01,850 --> 01:17:59,820
Administration they will tell you they

1779
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:01,860
don't investigate UFOs

1780
01:18:08,340 --> 01:18:04,800
but they may tell you to contact the

1781
01:18:09,470 --> 01:18:08,350
National UFO Reporting Center

1782
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:09,480
[Music]

1783
01:18:14,030 --> 01:18:12,000
the center is in Seattle Washington it

1784
01:18:16,130 --> 01:18:14,040
is a clearing house for thousands of

1785
01:18:18,890 --> 01:18:16,140
eyewitness reports that come in every

1786
01:18:25,310 --> 01:18:22,250
the National UFO Reporting Center is

1787
01:18:27,290 --> 01:18:25,320
really one man Peter Davenport sitting

1788
01:18:28,189 --> 01:18:27,300
alone at his desk in the corner of his

1789
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:28,199
living room

1790
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:30,480
Davenport is the only person we met who

1791
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:33,360
devotes himself full time to collecting

1792
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:36,560
reports and investigating UFO sightings

1793
01:18:41,930 --> 01:18:40,560
this is the heart of the National UFO

1794
01:18:46,970 --> 01:18:41,940
Reporting Center

1795
01:18:49,870 --> 01:18:46,980
a telephone my trusty tape recorder a

1796
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:49,880
spare tape recorder if I need it

1797
01:18:55,370 --> 01:18:52,560
reference materials with regard to

1798
01:18:57,950 --> 01:18:55,380
aircraft in a website that is UFO

1799
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:57,960
Central if you will to coin a term

1800
01:19:04,750 --> 01:19:01,440
and as modest a facility physically

1801
01:19:08,270 --> 01:19:04,760
speak as modest as it is we nevertheless

1802
01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:08,280
can collect a lot of information a lot

1803
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:10,320
of information from eyewitnesses to add

1804
01:19:14,649 --> 01:19:12,480
to the already enormous record of

1805
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:14,659
sightings going back more than 50 years

1806
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:18,239
data that science ignores

1807
01:19:23,870 --> 01:19:20,400
the proper stance is one of skepticism

1808
01:19:25,790 --> 01:19:23,880
because what we ufologists are saying is

1809
01:19:28,610 --> 01:19:25,800
that the planet Earth is being visited

1810
01:19:30,850 --> 01:19:28,620
on a regular basis perhaps on a daily

1811
01:19:34,729 --> 01:19:30,860
basis there goes that line

1812
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:34,739
[Music]

1813
01:19:43,729 --> 01:19:36,719
National UFO Reporting Center good

1814
01:19:50,510 --> 01:19:47,149
I'm outside my backyard I saw an object

1815
01:19:53,330 --> 01:19:50,520
move from east to west

1816
01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:53,340
how long did you see it please about 10

1817
01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:55,679
seconds 10 seconds National UFO

1818
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:57,600
Reporting Center good evening white is

1819
01:20:05,950 --> 01:20:01,440
like a oh yeah a big ball of white light

1820
01:20:10,490 --> 01:20:08,689
it's very bright lights and I thought

1821
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:10,500
probably someone was looking out the

1822
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:14,880
windows okay no noise I'm gonna guess it

1823
01:20:19,330 --> 01:20:16,560
was going a thousand miles an hour or

1824
01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:22,370
more than 50 years after Kenneth Arnold

1825
01:20:27,470 --> 01:20:24,600
saw the first flying saucers it is left

1826
01:20:30,169 --> 01:20:27,480
to Peter Davenport and only a few others

1827
01:20:31,390 --> 01:20:30,179
to investigate this mystery it changed

1828
01:20:34,130 --> 01:20:31,400
directions

1829
01:20:36,169 --> 01:20:34,140
twice every day seven days a week

1830
01:20:38,330 --> 01:20:36,179
Davenport talks to people sometimes

1831
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:38,340
dozens of people who have seen an object

1832
01:20:45,850 --> 01:20:41,760
in the sky people for whom seeing is now

1833
01:20:51,130 --> 01:20:45,860
believing thank you very much good night

1834
01:20:58,510 --> 01:20:53,990
we're still hoping to find that Golden

1835
01:21:01,130 --> 01:20:58,520
Nugget that will make our position

1836
01:21:03,470 --> 01:21:01,140
incontrovertible namely the fact that it

1837
01:21:07,250 --> 01:21:03,480
appears that these things that we call

1838
01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:07,260
UFOs are visiting the planet Earth

1839
01:21:13,490 --> 01:21:10,260
the Golden Nugget of ufology something

1840
01:21:16,189 --> 01:21:13,500
to elevate ufology to more than a shadow

1841
01:21:19,370 --> 01:21:16,199
of mainstream science to convince the

1842
01:21:24,290 --> 01:21:19,380
Skeptics that UFOs are more than just

1843
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:26,630
currently the UFO Believers and the

1844
01:21:31,550 --> 01:21:29,280
scientists have one thing in common they

1845
01:21:35,950 --> 01:21:31,560
dream of the day that there will be

1846
01:21:40,010 --> 01:21:35,960
contact with extraterrestrials

1847
01:21:42,150 --> 01:21:40,020
ultimately only contact is going to

1848
01:21:45,890 --> 01:21:42,160
resolve the mystery

1849
01:21:49,850 --> 01:21:47,870
it has been a very interesting Journey